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Sunday, September 7, 2014

We received a letter from  someone calling themselves "valleyfromhellresident" that was so full of untruths and misconceptions that we in good conscious cannot post it here. It was entirely an attack piece, false and misleading, and our blog is about giving truthful information to owner/readers. However, we would post it if their authorship is given so they can stand by and answer the defamatory statements to the community directly. 
 
This is our comments to that letter. 
Dear :Valley From Hell Resident, 
So many of our residents have been threatened, demonized, even referred to Panama authorities for absolutely no reason simply because they challenged the SC Chairman Richard Charbit and its members to be honest about who Richard Charbit is since he lied to the entire community about his past.  
He said it was a made up cousin who was the arrested party; but instead of honesty, the Steering Committee collectively were complicit & covered up and lied about his criminal past versus being upfront to the community.   
Their subsequent actions of the SC against the developer ( all documented) without the consent of the Homeowners has many many owners upset. Because the criminal / civil actions have been formally charged against these members of the SC, that could very well end up costing all VE owners a great deal of money in legal fees and damages if a judgement is awarded against us. And those charged criminally could go to jail. These charges as we now know are very serious in Panama, but seem to taken lightly by those charged who have not sought expert legal advice. 
The community has asked this SC numerous times if  they will pay their own legal bills to defend against their irresponsible actions and they refuse to respond in any forum of requests to do so, so what does this tell you?  We collectively refuse to be responsible for these careless & reckless actions. You could say emotions are deep among owners in VE. 
 We feel the group who supports this SC should all tell the community they will as agreed to fund them for any and all legal fees and or judgments against them and it will diminish many of the residents hostilities.  Maybe you can take your frustrations and spearhead this cause in defense of the SC.  It would be so appreciated. 
There is so much hatred and anguish in VE,  many of us wish we never purchased here.  Without getting into the issues and or taking sides of beliefs, we feel in order for this community to heal the following must happen.

1)    All Steering Committee members agree to resign and hold an election where members must be voted in and not appointed by a small group; We need a fresh start with new people and new ideas.

2)    As a community, we review and edit new CC&R’s that help prevent these problems from ever happening again in Valle Escondido that we are experiencing today. The homeowners need to have a vote on important issues; where we have no vote or consideration today.

3)    We insure all of our annual HOA dues go towards expenditures that 100% of our community can enjoy and or considered as priority expenses such as security, road maintenance, landscaping, trash pick-up,  infrastructure transfer & maintenance of same; Not to advisors and or legal fees

4)    Limiting the power of a few and restoring decisions of expenses to the majority.

5)    Should a select group of owners have an agenda against the developer/resort owner important to this group, they can form their own subcommittee, review the facts , offer a plan of objectives to the HOA and have the entire community vote on a cause of action weather to proceed or not. Mediation is our only cost effective way to solve our problems and move forward, holding both the developer and the HOA to an enforceable resolution.  
We are sad you also seem to have these feelings and hope you join us in starting over with a fresh start.

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

I do not know who wrote this or if it was a collaborated effort, but this response and overview to solve our problems is poignant with common sense. My Husband and I sure hope those who continue to support this SC can see clearly once and for all without emotions. We have only one way forward to solve our problems if we cannot agree "mediation" and accept the outcome! The past with attacks and personal agenda's will get VE nowhere. Should a resolution not happen and soon, wait til you see the division when a great deal of owners will not pay their dues to this current SC, then it will get really ugly in VE. Wake up owners!

Anonymous said...

This letter from Resident from Hell, was full of points THAT THEY, the SC, WANT YOU TO BELIEVE, but there was no truth in any of it.
I have lived here for many years and know most all concerned, and have had many conversations with both sides and many parties involved.

Why is it so hard for some homeowners to see that this group (sc and advisors) have such a HATRED for Thalia that they are willing to destroy Valle Escondido if it destroys her!!

When our property values are down to fire sale prices for the people who have to sell and get out, who do you think will be first in line to "pick up" these low prices??

How do you like the idea of selling your home at distressed rock bottom prices to the very people who caused the price fall?!

It is clear that there is a private agenda going on here. They of course always deny this, and of course they would have to. I know at least one of these people wants to own most of Valle Escondido and have most of us homeowners who are not in their money bracket - gone. It truly would be a 'private community' then wouldn't it?!

Its a very devious plan I know, but this group (or the top level) are very devious. Haven't you seen and read enough to realize that?

Unfortunate for the few who follow them that believe the lies they are being told, are pawns being used to instigate more hatred for Thalia and the resort, and to keep fanning the flames.

They are not looking to find a solution to our problems here, that is why nothing has been solved. THIS IS WHY THEY WILL NEVER GO TO MEDIATION ON ANY ISSUE. The longer they can keep the unrest going, the more our prices fall……do you get it now?

Anonymous said...

In response to this quote from a posting over the weekend:

""“By the way, I read the Charbit case and anyone in this Valley could have been found guilty of such a white collar crime as penny stock fraud..... Please..... and as corrupt as the Panama government officials seem to be and the people behind the operations of Valle Escondido whom in the past have bragged about their ability to pay off officials, how dare can anyone say he is this low life criminal.... this could be any of us.”""

Excuse me, BUT,
I’d like to think that most VE neighbors are not hiding from a US Securities fraud conviction or similar doings, and I think that this mentality is frightening.

The US Govt. doesn’t go after a man, prosecute and imprison and then deport him for any-old minor offense which “any one of us could have committed.”

And the vast majority of VE neighbors didn’t purportedly lie on their importation forms to Panama and end up being Expelled from the Country.

That’s imprisonment in 2 Countries, deportation from one, and expulsion from the other.

And if what he did is so minor, then why did he lie to ALL of us including the SC by saying “it wasn’t me?”

Anonymous said...

Two people have approached me whether we are supposed to sign the Ballot before submitting it electronically. Has anyone done this?