Happiness Begins Again in VE

To Our Community Of Owners,

We are pleased to announce that the results of the election have been tabulated and authorized by our Board Of Director's. 

The Election was a great success for the 60+ owners who decided to be active, vote and establish a fresh start for a new Valle Escondido.  

We encourage every owner to support the new Steering Committee, they have great plans with intentions to create a sub committee to immediately engage in negotiations for the transfer of Assets. 

This group was able to have the developer's representative (Mr. Federico Salazar ) speak informally at the General Assembly. Mr. Salazar was encouraged by the election for a group to step up so we can all work towards a mutually beneficial transfer of assets. 

Great things are happening. However we have been informed their are a few disgruntled owners who wish to create continued disruptions in our community and desire to sue our HOA.  We hope in a few days, this group will realize the absurdity of suing ourselves and to what end?  We have no idea.  

Please discourage any owner who so wishes to create further disruptions in our community to just sell their property if they are so unhappy. They are encouraged to leave. We choose to work towards happiness and support neighbor togetherness!  

Thanks to Ralf Henrich for his 2+ months of spectacular leadership. Thanks to Our election Inspectors, Don Dreibelbis, Dieter Dosch, Bill McAbee and Caser Sherrard for moderating!   Great job and big thanks!

The Past is over! We must all unite for the best interest of all owners!

You will be hearing from the new SC soon!

Congrats to Valle Escondido Owners! 

Your Neighbors

Election Results

Valle Escondido Homeowners Association

There was a General Assembly of the Valle Escondido Homeowners Association (“VEHOA”) on Saturday, January 10^th 2015 at 2”00 PM.  Under the provisions of Deed 1937, the quorum requirement for such a meeting to conduct a vote is 60% of eligible properties.  Attending this meeting were representatives of 63 properties either in person or by powers of attorney or proxies.  Because the quorum requirement of 90 properties was not achieved, no voting occurred and the meeting was adjourned.

Under the provisions of Deed 1937, should such a General Assembly fail to meet its quorum requirement, a subsequent meeting, held within 25 days of the original one, may be held in an attempt to conduct the planned vote. For such a meeting the quorum requirement is reduced to  one-half (30%) of the prior level.  That meeting was held on Monday, January 12^th.  A quorum was attained and an election held.  Results of that election are tabulated on the following page. These numbers are believed to be accurate but are subject to final confirmation.

We Are ALL VENeighbors!

VE Neighbor's ( I assume that is all of us in VE)

I was forwarded a post from VEHOA from a fellow neighbor and I feel it warrants a defense response.  Jon Arcuni is now classifying those who disagree with him as "Clandestine". He is classifying us as VE Neighbors, I thought we are all VE Neighbor's?   Thank God for this blog, it gives us a chance to address our own concerns for our community which may differ from other's where we are prohibited from voicing differing viewpoints.

 If the vote and the will of the majority voting today is "Yes" for change in accordance to the laws of deed 1937( which our community clearly operates under), then we as a community should have an obligation to support it, and put this vile past of name calling, attacks etc. behind us.  

Folks, this is a tiny 160 home sub community, not a small country, lets put everything in perspective and resolve our differences once and for all.

If you become one of the minority and you do not like the outcome, I have one simple question to ask. 

For the good of your family and other neighbors in VE, why not just sell your property and move somewhere else.  Why all the disruption to others causing such great disharmony while our property values fall in the toilet simply because others disagree and want to live in peace? 

There is no need to shout, argue, bully, intimidate, scowl or terrorize those who simply disagree with you.  A "clandestine" group of neighbors and their "nefarious activities" sure seems like it could be attacking the majority of voting neighbors and sadly does nothing to help us heal as a community.

There is nothing "clandestine or nefarious" happening Jon, this is a very LARGE group of your fellow owners who have every right to disagree with you or others in your camp so to speak. 

Please respect our rights according to the legal advice we have been given regarding change for our community.  

 Jon, you did kiss me upon your return to VE.  That was a simple act of kindness you hide behind your scowl demeanor. See, we can all get along.  It just takes a little bit of effort.  Can we all just be nice!  The world has enough problems.

Can we agree to disagree and lets move on and just be nice to each other.  

Its so much easier on the soul.

Mark Schneider

MINGOB Documents Declare THERE IS NO LEGAL SC - VOTE JAN. 10 TO HAVE LEGAL SC

Join the over 60+ VE homeowners committed to vote for change tomorrow.

What this document means:

This document dated January 8th clearly states that only deed 1937 is the governing document that must be followed for the VE Homeowners Association.

This very important resolution from the Ministry of Government that determines all Homeowner Rules.

This document clearly demonstrates that the 2010 CC&R's even if they were called Operating Rules were never submitted and approved which must be done first before they can go into effect.

-All changes MUST be approved by MINGOV including that any operating rules must be referenced.

-MINGOV only has DEED 1937 and the 2010 document was never submitted to them nor approved so ONLY 1937 applies.

This is the law. THERE IS NO SC!

Translated in English below.

ENGLISH TRANSLATION :

República de Panama

Ministerio de Gobierno MINGOB

Oficina Asesoría Legal

Panama, 8 de enero de 2014

Licenciado Nota No. 65-OAL-15

Julio Cesar Espinosa

Procurador Judical

Asociación de Propietarios de Valle Escondido

Ciudad

Upon instructions of Mrs. General Secretary, Ministry of Government am pleased to answer the note signed by you, which raises questions about the obligation or not to request amendments to the regulations of the Valle Escondido Homeowner’s association for approval by the Ministry of Government.

In this regard, we report that the Executive Decree 524 of 31 July 2005 that dictates rules for recognition of legal entities, establishes that the Ministry of Government authority to approve amendments to the Statute of associations or foundations proven non-interest profit subject to compliance with all requirements, so any modification to the statute must be submitted to the consideration of the Ministry of Government.

In the case of the Valle Escondido Homeowner’s association, as established in the twenty-seventh article of the statute of the association, any amendment to the statute must be approved by the General assembly with the consent of 75% of the members present at the meeting. Once the proposal is approved the reform by the General Assembly, shall submit to the approval of Ministry of government.

Regarding the Internal regulations of associations or private foundations, non-profit, non competition the Ministry of Government, therefore concerning their adoption, approval, reform and inscription in the Public Registry is managed privately by each entity.

Moreover, it follows the Thirty article of the Statute Regulation, Duties, Rights and Restrictions of Valle Escondido Urbanization forms an integral part of the statute, however deed  1937, filed on October 15, 2003 is the only protocol of Incorporation and confirms the statute does not contain the (CC&R’s)  Rules and Regulations which was notarized by deed  Post 3329 of July 30, 2010 and does not appear in the Ministry of Government for approval thereon.

Without further

Francisco Augusto De Leon MINGOB Stamp

Director

Amendments to Protect Homeowners - Vote YES on Jan 10

 In case you have not seen these or lost your email that contained them here is the English and Spanish version of the amendments for tomorrows election.   We hope to see a lot of you at the informal meeting to discuss the issues at 1:00PM and then cast your vote at 2:00PM.

                                       Valle Escondido CC&R Solution Amendments

12/8/14

Dear Fellow Owner

The following are suggested and crucial amendments for each of us to vote on for our CC&R’s. We identify the specific problems plaguing our community to date and offer clear solutions by asking you to vote on these amendments.  These solutions protect and benefit each and every owner of our community in their entirety.  These amendments are a collaborated effort of Jerry Loveless, Rod Parker, Dennis Griffin and other HOA members.

These amendments also resolve the lingering question whether our HOA is operating under the originally registered 1937 deed or the recent 2010 CC&R’s.  While approving and incorporating these amendments below into the 2010 CC&R’s it eliminates the question of what is our lawful operating by-laws. (once the newly elected SC gets them properly registered in accordance to Panamanian law.)  By voting yes to the amendments herein you agree and accept that our 2010 CC&R’s will be our only governing by-laws for the VEHOA to operate under.

We believe these solutions will resolve any future differences between us as neighbors.  Please join us to restore peace in our community.

PROBLEM: Reckless Spending by a Steering Committee (SC) 

1)    AMENDMENT SOLUTION   Until such time a budget is approved by the majority of owners in accordance to the CC&R’s the SC cannot raise yearly homeowner’s dues or spend any unauthorized funds of the HOA outside of specific fixed obligations which are approved by the majority of VE home owners as essential obligations such as existing contractual obligations of the VEHOA, security, common area landscaping, water system maintenance and repair, waste system maintenance and repair; The SC with a 3/5ths  vote can access funds directed for any emergency expense  specific  to needs of Valle Escondido.   No funds can be used on any 3rd party administration, marketing, consultant or legal services without the agreed majority vote of the VEHOA until which time a budget is approved.  All budgetary events that require a vote of the owners will be posted and emailed to the owners of record and the vote held no sooner then 10 (ten) days and no more then 50 (fifty) days from the date of notification.  The vote will require a majority of votes cast to be approved.                                                                                           

 PROBLEM: Removal and conduct of a SC member or other‘s in a leadership role 

2)    AMENDMENT SOLUTION:  Any member of the VEHOA can call for a special vote to remove a SC member, or other in a leadership capacity, by submitting a petition for such removal signed by at least 40 homeowners. This is specific should there be any flagrant conduct detrimental to the community.  Such conduct could be defined as a personal attack in any way that injures a fellow HOA member (or other persons related to VE), unauthorized use of HOA funds or assets or any undefined action which was dishonest,  causes injury with intent to harm or injure a fellow HOA member. The SC cannot alter, adjust, change or terminate any existing contract of the HOA that exceeds a value of $10,000.00 annually or more without the majority consent of the HOA.  No authorized SC member, or other member of the community without written consent of the BOD and majority of the SC vote, are authorized to move, open, transfer or direct the transfer of any VEHOA funds or payable dues to an unauthorized account.  This special meeting which includes the vote for removal shall be held within ten days of proper notification and the accused party will be removed with cause for any above reason should there be a vote of a minimum of   1/2 of VE home owners in attendance whether in person or proxy. The removal is final and said party is asked to resign or be terminated immediately after notification. 

 PROBLEM: Prevention of Secret Meetings or Verbal Agreements/Contracts 

3)    AMENDMENT SOLUTION:  All official SC meetings must be open to any homeowner wishing to attend should any owner so desire. Any and all meetings must be recorded as part of the official record to have cause and effect in accordance to the CC&R’s of VEHOA.  A SC agrees to post all formal meetings on the VEHOA site for all members benefit within 72 hours via an audio file said meeting.  Any “unofficial” private meeting will have no legal standing with the VEHOA under any circumstances until such time it is under official meeting terms as outlined above.

PROBLEM: Reckless or careless actions by the SC or individual member  

4)    AMENDMENT SOLUTION: No SC member or other representative may send out any community wide communication to any HOA member in an official capacity without the signed approval of 3/5ths of the SC if writing on behalf of the SC.  Each authorizing member agrees to personally assign their name with authority of said communication.  Should any SC member provoke any action which could be defined to cause a lawsuit, claim or injury to a 3^rd party and such action was unauthorized by the HOA in accordance to our CC&R’s, such SC member is personally and solely obligated to pay their own legal fees to represent themselves and solely responsible for any and all judgments or awards for or against their person as it relates to said claims.  Should it be determined that the use of any VEHOA homeowner funds were used in the defense of or in paying a settlement for the personal actions of a SC member then the association has the right to place a lien against that SC members property and pursue a settlement in accordance to Panamanian laws.

Sincerely,

JAVIER RIVERA ESPINOSA

CHAIRMAN OF VEHOA

Traducción

Valle Escondido soluciones a los Reglamentos

12.08.14

Estimados Propietarios:

A continuación se sugieren las enmiendas modificaciones a los reglamentos para que puedan votar por ellas. Identificamos los problemas concretos que aquejan a nuestra comunidad y ofrecemos  las soluciones claras al pedirle que pronunciarse sobre estas enmiendas. Estas soluciones protegen y benefician a todos y cada dueño de nuestra comunidad en su totalidad. Estas enmiendas son un esfuerzo colaborado de Jerry Loveless, Rod Parker, Dennis Griffin y otros miembros de la Asociación de Propietarios.

Estas modificaciones también resolverán la persistente pregunta de si nuestro HOA está operando bajo el principio registrado 1.937 escritura o la reciente 2010. Si bien la aprobación y la incorporación de estas enmiendas en el reglamento de 2010 que eliminó nuestros estatutos (una vez que el SC recién elegido se les debidamente registrados de conformidad con la ley panameña), al votar sí las enmiendas del presente documento usted está de acuerdo y acepta que nuestro 2010 CC & R será nuestro único gobernante de los estatutos de la VEHOA.

Creemos que estas soluciones se resuelven las diferencias futuras entre nosotros como vecinos. Por favor, únase a nosotros para restaurar la paz en nuestra comunidad.

PROBLEMA: El gasto imprudente por un Comité Directivo (CD)

1) SOLUCIÓN ENMIENDA Hasta que un presupuesto es aprobado por la mayoría de los propietarios de acuerdo a los CC & R es la SC no puede aumentar las cuotas de propietarios anual o gastar los fondos no autorizadas de la Asociación de Propietarios fuera de obligaciones fijas específicas que sean aprobadas por la mayoría de VE casa propietarios como obligaciones esenciales, tales como las obligaciones contractuales del VEHOA, seguridad, jardinería área común, el mantenimiento y la reparación del sistema de agua, mantenimiento y reparación del sistema de residuos; El SC con una votación de 3 / 5as puede acceder a los fondos dirigidos por cualquier gasto de emergencia específicos para las necesidades de Valle Escondido. No hay fondos pueden ser utilizados en cualquier administración tercera parte, la comercialización, consultor o servicios legales sin el voto de la mayoría acordada del VEHOA hasta el cual se aprobó un presupuesto. Todos los eventos presupuestarias que requieren el voto de los propietarios serán publicadas y enviadas por correo electrónico a los propietarios de registro y el voto no bien mantenido de 10 (diez) días y no más de 50 (cincuenta) días a partir de la fecha de notificación. La votación se requerirá una mayoría de votos emitidos para ser aprobado.

  PROBLEMA: La eliminación y la conducta de un miembro de SC u otros de una función de liderazgo.

2) SOLUCIÓN ENMIENDA: Cualquier miembro de la VEHOA puede pedir una votación especial para eliminar un miembro SC, u otra en una capacidad de liderazgo, mediante la presentación de una petición de dicha retirada firmada por al menos 40 propietarios de viviendas. Esto es específico debe haber ninguna conducta flagrante en detrimento de la comunidad. Tal conducta se podría definir como un ataque personal de ninguna manera que dañe a un compañero HOA (u otras personas relacionadas con VE), el uso no autorizado de los fondos HOA o activos o cualquier acción indefinido que era deshonesto, causa lesiones con intención de dañar o lesionar un miembro de la Asociación de Propietarios compañero. El SC no puede alterar, ajustar, cambiar o terminar cualquier contrato en vigor de la Asociación de Propietarios que excede un valor de $ 10,000.00 al año o más sin el consentimiento de la mayoría de la Asociación de Propietarios. Ningún miembro SC autorizado, u otro miembro de la comunidad sin el consentimiento por escrito de la DBO y la mayoría del voto SC, están autorizados a mover, abrir, transferir o dirigir la transferencia de los fondos VEHOA o cuotas por pagar a una cuenta no autorizada. Esta reunión especial que incluye el voto para el retiro se llevará a cabo dentro de los diez días de la notificación adecuada y la parte acusada será removido con causa, por cualquier motivo anterior debe haber un voto de un mínimo de 1/2 de VE los dueños de casa en la asistencia si en persona o proxy. La retirada es definitiva y dijo que se pidió partido a dimitir o ser terminado inmediatamente después de la notificación.

  PROBLEMA: Prevención de reuniones secretas o acuerdos verbales / Contratos

3) ENMIENDA SOLUCIÓN: Todas las reuniones oficiales SC deben estar abiertos a cualquier propietario que desee asistir deberá cualquier propietario así lo desea. Cualquiera y todas las reuniones deben ser registrados como parte del registro oficial de tener causa y efecto, de acuerdo a la CC & R de VEHOA. Un SC se compromete a publicar todas las reuniones formales en el sitio VEHOA para todos los miembros se benefician en 72 horas a través de un archivo de audio dicha reunión. Cualquier reunión privada "no oficial" no tendrá personalidad jurídica con la VEHOA en ningún caso hasta el momento en que se encuentra bajo los términos de reuniones oficiales como se indicó anteriormente.

PROBLEMA: acciones imprudentes o negligentes por parte de la SC o miembro individual

4) SOLUCIÓN ENMIENDA: Ningún miembro SC u otro representante pueden enviar cualquier comunicación amplia comunidad a cualquier miembro de la Asociación de Propietarios de manera oficial sin la aprobación firmada de 3 / 5ths del SC si escribir en nombre de la SC. Cada miembro se compromete a autorizar asignar personalmente su nombre con la autoridad de dicha comunicación. Si algún miembro SC provocar cualquier acción que se podría definir a causar una demanda, reclamación o perjuicio a un tercero partido y tal acción fue autorizada por la Asociación de Propietarios de acuerdo a nuestro CC & R, ese miembro SC está obligado personalmente y solamente para pagar su propio legal honorarios para representarse a sí mismos y el único responsable de cualquier y todas las sentencias o laudos a favor o en contra de su persona y su relación con dicho reclamaciones. Si se determina que el uso de los fondos de vivienda VEHOA se utilizaron en la defensa o en el pago de una liquidación para las acciones personales de un miembro de SC entonces la asociación tiene el derecho de colocar un gravamen sobre que los miembros del CN propiedad y buscar una solución de conformidad con las leyes panameñas.

Atentamente,

Javier Rivera Espinosa

Presidente del VEHOA

A Message to Those Who Choose Unhappiness!

To our Neighbors,

There are a few owners (or representatives of owners) in our community who continue to play a large part of the disruption of peace & tranquility in Valle Escondido. We encourage all property owners to stand up and vote to restore the beauty of Valle Escondido and not allow these thorns of disruption from preventing solutions we all so desperately want.

Please, do not allow anyone to threaten you, attack you or make you feel uncomfortable in your own home.  It is these type of people we hope sell their properties and move somewhere else. Their disruptive actions are not welcome in Valle Escondido. Panamanian law is on our side per this official letter (here), numerous and unbiased attorney's have given us legal opinions to confirm the law is on our side.

More importantly, it is the will of "us" the majority who invested here who wish to stand up for the simplicity of solution versus the negative air of disruption that is causing so much disharmony among us. We must put this past behind us. A past, that up and until this point has created so much internal dissension we find it hard for anyone opposing us to even remember why they are fighting? To what end, for what gain?

 All we want is peace and enjoyment. The majority of us in Valle Escondido invested here for this peace and enjoyment, we are only voting to restore it.  We find it difficult to comprehend why anyone would prevent this from happening, even at their own detriment and unhappiness.  

The age old argument that "we are for the developer" etc. has worn its welcome beyond belief. We say, If you are against the developer do not support the resort, if you feel you have been taken advantage of by the developer, seek retribution on your own with your own legal efforts. Sell your property and move. But, do not include other owners and or our money to fight your battles, that is a personal choice. Leave us alone and let us enjoy our community. 

We want to restore our lives and property values,  We have had it with wasted money and agendas that interrupt our lives and our investment.  
Its a new year, lets all go forward and leave the past forever.
Sincerely

A Large Voting Majority Of VE Neighbors    

To All Owners, From the Candidates for the Steering Committee

Valle Escondido has just been through several very difficult years. These difficulties have impacted real estate values, caused the expenditure of significant amounts of dollars on non-productive activities, and strained numerous friendships. There is no way to undo all of the events that brought these conditions about. What we can do is begin today with a renewed commitment to grow a community that does justice to our amazing surroundings.

The election that is being held on January 10 at 2 p.m. is simply about making VE a better place to live, not about rehashing old wounds and injustices.

We, the undersigned group of individuals standing for election to the VEHOA Steering Committee, will not dwell on the past. We intend to concentrate our time and energy on the current issues facing our community and towards activities that will positively impact the future. We are also committed to carrying out these activities in a transparent manner.

If elected, our first priority will be to take action on the following items:

• Restore the HOA bank account and funds
• Establish a reserve bank account to hold all specific capital asset related funds. This account will have independent signers and will to be used for capital expenditures only.
• Deliver a 2015 budget to the community by mid-February. This group has already been working on preparing a new operating budget. Because we are already into the year and we have not had existing accounting information available to us, it may take weeks. At that time, the complete budget will be presented to the community.
• Form a Transfer of Asset (TOA) subcommittee to immediately sit down with the developer and negotiate in good faith the transfer of assets and a working plan on managing such assets. We wish for this process to be completed with Panamanian legal experts who understand the laws as it relates to such transfers and keep this process outside of the HOA discussions. This subcommittee will be responsible for giving regular updates to the entire community and, when appropriate, present the transfer plan to the community for a vote.
• Reform the Security subcommittee with the intent of having clear and concise security requirements written. These requirements will then be provided to all qualified security companies for bid.
• Research and price a new entrance design and then present said design and budget to the community for review. This design may include input from the Security subcommittee. The ultimate goal is an entrance that is aesthetically pleasing, secure, and easy for residents to maneuver.
• Review and plan segmented budgets for our roads.
• Create a defined emergency fund to insure that we are protected should any emergency occur in the future with electric, water, or septic.
• Several months ago a group of residents started, on their own, the formation of an emergency medical response plan. We are in discussion with those individuals about reviving this potentially lifesaving plan.
• Explore the feasibility of hiring a community manager.

If elected, we will post notices as to where and when formal meetings will be held. Except under extraordinary circumstances, no policy, spending, or regulatory votes will be held in closed meetings. In those instances where an issue needs immediate attention and a subsequent meeting and vote must take place in an abbreviated time frame, we still intend to post a notice of the event prior to the actual vote. We are researching ways to enable remote attendance to all formal meetings.

In pursuit of transparency and community-building, we would also like to restart the monthly newsletter. The newsletter that had been published until recently was very well written, interesting and informative.

Events of the past few years are just that. Past. Each of us were drawn to this special place for a number of reasons, but we presume that pursuit of our own personal paradise was part of it. Let’s work together and move forward.

Sincere regards,

Lindy Aaron

Dennis Griffin

Stan Hime

Joel Mahler

Antonieta Sherrard

UTTER FABRICATED LIES!

Dear owners, This is why we are holding an election for a new Steering Committee;   This paragraph from their recent letter sent to selected owners is complete lies.  IT MUST END!

It is our understanding that the VEN want to do away with the Steering Committee and put the control back in the hands of the developer.  Do you want that?  It appears that Julio, who appears now to be consistently and openly doing what is best for the developer, will be part of that control.  Do you want that?  There is no indication that an elevator will ever be installed by the developer.  Do you want that?  Many still do not hold title.  Do you want that? Do you want the Developer to control all those votes for the untitled condos?  We need to pay for our security and water problems but VEN has control of the checking account and homeowners don't want to pay their dues while that continues.  Do you want that?  

Large Water Leak Found & Fixed! We are Making Progress in VE.

To All Homeowners,

In identifying our immediate water problems, many owners contacted Ralf given his history with our water system. Ralf went and picked up Javier this morning and together upon returning to VE found out our 1st pressing water issue was a very large tree coming down on a water main in front of Mick Culbertson's driveway, causing all the tank water to leak without servicing any of our homes.  

It is being repaired by Javier and team, we are going to have to be patient it could be an all day affair. 

We need to address the bigger water issues now and get to a resolution once and for all.  It will take a joint effort but we can do it. 

Good News, Javier has agreed to work with Ralf & Michael Burd to get to the bottom once and for all regarding our water problems and offer solution options to us.

Thanks to Ralf & Javier when you see them.

John Maesky

Homeowners Should Have the Power, not the Steering Committee. VOTE on Jan. 10.

Dear Fellow Homeowner:

Have you had a chance to read the email from the so-called SC this weekend?  The mere fact that V/E’s Illegal Steering Committee refers to the January 10^th General Assembly as a “Power grab” perhaps says it all.

Should it be a power grab?  NO!   No single Valle Escondido Steering Committee should have power to grab! 

Legally, there is no power to grab, as the Secretary General of Panama has ruled that Deed 1937 (which doesn’t ever mention the existence or words “Steering Committee”) is the legal operating document of Valle Escondido. Even the Illegal Steering Committee's hired VEHOA Attorney has issued a written opinion stating the same. 

It will take voter-approved amendments to the CC&R’s and registration with the correct entities in Panama to create a Steering Committee for Valle Escondido!

And that’s what the January 10^th General Assembly is all about, to return any perceived “power” to the Homeowners, where it should be. 

The Steering Committee should be a volunteer based, actually elected body which carries out the will of the majority of the Homeowners! 

This is what the previous Steering Committees have done WITHOUT homeowner approval or consent. Do you want these type of actions to continue?

·         Should the Valle Escondido Steering Committee be able to spend +/- $85,000 of Homeowner dues to hire Paul McBride without the knowledge and consent of the Homeowner’s?

·         Should the Valle Escondido Steering Committee be able to hire 2 different Attorney’s simultaneously and pay both with Homeowner dues without any Homeowner involvement?

·         Should the Valle Escondido Steering Committee be able to hire 2 different Security Companies simultaneously and pay both with Homeowner dues without any Homeowner involvement?

·         Should the Valle Escondido Steering Committee be able to take the VEHOA Homeowner dues out of the Global Bank account and hide them from the Homeowner’s?

·         Should the Valle Escondido (illegal) Steering Committee members refer to the very Homeowner’s they’re supposed to represent as quote:  “F**king assholes, racists, money launderers, and drug dealers?”

·         Should the Valle Escondido Steering Committee be able to collect $30,000+ of Homeowner dues for road maintenance & not spend one penny of that money on road maintenance?

You as a Fellow Homeowner have the right to decide if this is how you want Valle Escondido run and if this is how you want your annual dues spent. And if you’re not 100% happy with the way things have been in the Valley the last year, then January 10^th is your opportunity to voice your dissatisfaction! Is it a “power grab?”  I think not, what say you?

Bill McAbee, resident

The Wackiness of VE Just goes on & On!

The Wackiness of VE Just goes On & On!

The following insidious post was made by Richard Charbit seemingly attacking Mark Schneider & Ralf Henrich; Below is Mark's response comment, as well as John Maesky's, ( Who said he is blocked from the VEHOA blog, so much for a transparent community blog).. It just does not end!  We all must vote on January 10th and put an end to the insanity in VE! 

On a more positive note, Thanks to Mark & Ralf for taking the initiative to help solve our water issue! They are putting together a work program to help identify possible leak locations to be repaired.  Guys, we know you wanted anonymity for your work on this problem, but your cover was blown and Charbit's surveillance team got you.   This place is something else!
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Ralf and Schneider

Posted on January 3, 2015 by Richard Charbit — No Comments ↓

What were Ralf and Schneider doing at the noria (water reservoir) today around 2:45pm,

and more importantly why did they hide when they spotted an elected member of the VE  BOD?

One comment on “Ralf and Schneider”

1. Mark Schneider says:

January 3, 2015 at 9:16 pm

Richard,
I was just emailed your post from a few owners. Really? We are reverting back to the wackiness of VE again? Owners not only do not want to leave their name on anything but “anonymous ” we have to start dressing in costume’s to hide our identity. Just who was this paranoid person following us? I sure would like to know! Richard, the truth is, we were on the run from immigration, thinking they were tracking us from the time you tried to turn us in, remember? We thought they were back and hot on our trail, so we ran up to hide there!

Richard, if you would have taken this serious, you should have emailed me personally if you really were interested in knowing why we were up there, instead of creating the VE drama people are just sick of!
Come on, stop it!
Now you owe me another lunch!

John, will this post get blocked too? Enough with this!
Lets get that new group of SC leaders in on the 10th and be done with the wackiness of VE, owners are disengaged, just fed up & tired of this crap.

Mark

P.S. You may not know this, but we have a severe water problem and we just might know why & were trying to figure it out. You can thank us later!

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2. John Maesky says:

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January 3, 2015 at 9:55 pm

It is obvious that the current steering committee does not care or is not competent enough to take care of our worsening water loss. The obvious leak in our system is either getting worse or there is now another new leak. As the owners who are actually in the Valle know, there have been several large earthquakes these past couple months and obviously they could cause problems with our pipes.

Ralf found a major leak by the amphitheater a couple years ago and upon repair we had no more problems that year. Understandably Ralf is trying to find another leak.

Leaks that our water expert, Eric, has been warning the steering committee about for half a dozen years.

We should all be thankful that Ralf is back in the Valle working in our behalf.

Or maybe we should hire another attorney.