Dear Deb, ( I hear you go by Deb)
We have never met and as a fellow neighbor surely we are all entitled to our opinions as we all should be as owners in VE. Based on your quote below from your email received, which was sent to me and it seems most owners.....I wanted to respond to you personally and hope the rest of the community can view my response if it makes sense and they like.
Here is your quote.........…..
"As homeowners, we moved here to lead a more relaxed life, not one filled with strife; with worry about home values or infrastructure; or concern about a developer fulfilling promises s/he made: these concerns are the real job of a proper Steering Committee; that is a Steering Committee properly appraised and elected by all the homeowners. Once the homeowners get a Steering Committee representing them, residents of the Valle Escondido can proceed to live the promise of a life they believed brought them here in the first place."
My family and I ( like most owners in VE) also did not move or invest here per above for "strife" and surely we are looking for this place to change for the better.
BUT, can we be objective.....I have never taken a side with any party in VE, yet I have been accused by many of doing so; many by owners I have never met. I speak my mind with complete objectivity and honesty, I try not to offend anyone and I have never attacked anyone unless I am defending myself from anyone who may have misspoken or been out of line about me or regarding what I know to be truth.
So, can I ask a few questions of you and hope you can agree to answer me objectively in an effort to help get us to that place we are all looking to go. Please answer and do not think I am in anyway attacking you, I would not do that. I am just confused sometimes as to what the arguments in this community are anymore. They seem to either get lost in grey or deflected away by future arguments.
So here we go with some questions.........…
* The SC members in the email sent from above, which of those were elected? Fact…None
* Where is a copy of the filed lawsuit they keep telling us about that confirms the recent election to be a fraud, etc and it will be ruled on shortly? Please email me and or the community a copy of that suit for review. Can you?
If they cannot produce it with a file & recorded date of over 30 days ago, well then, sorry, where I come from, that is a lie, that is what they have been telling the community for at least 30 days. Agreed?
* The SC members mentioned above, Did any of them resign? Yes, Jeannie Bell 4 times that we know of. So, they can legally just jump back on and off whenever they want? is that in any by-law of VE?
* Did that SC take our funds last year out of our HOA account and not tell the community it represented or ask?
Fact! Yes they did, and no they did not ask. It was about $30K, It still has never been given an accounting of the funds spent and or who was in control of them, I personally asked many times, no one would answer me. Not nice, wouldn't you agree?
* Was that SC ever "elected"? NO, Never, only self appointed!
* Was there ever an election where a POA confirming a legal representative of a property was the only permitted one to vote prior to the 1/12/15 election? If no, that means every election in VE to date has been essentially illegal. Wouldn't you agree? Otherwise we are just trusting anyone to say they own a property, seems odd or illegal to me.
* Did that SC and its advisers spend close to $100K of our money on legal fees and advisers without our permission or vote to do so in the past 2 years? Fact, Yes! What did we benefit from it? Fact: Nothing but heartache and divide.
* Did that SC ask the community to fire BCS last year, than buy them out of its contract and waste another $6K to $8K of our money to terminate them just to get rid of them early? Fact! They did, and no, they never asked us!
Have you compared the Apple to Apple expenses? I have. Golf cart purchase, plus owners having to purchase the gas each week, plus a gas cart that signals its travels 1/2 mile away to any would be burglars....Hmmm. does not seem to smart to me. How does this help our security?
* Is the VEHOA blog a community blog or a private blog like VE neighbors? Fact! 100% private as well! We do not have an unbiased/objective community blog. Shouldn't we have one?
* Are you aware that the HOA computer has countless emails (I am told in the HUNDREDS) from this past SC members mentioned and its advisers with countless emails attempting to lie, make up stories, fabricate histories of other owners in an effort to destroy and even blackmail those in VE who simply disagree with them?
Are you OK with this? Would you still support these folks if we get the proof and show you? This seems absolutely horrendous if you ask me. How could any human being be so hateful towards others over an HOA and or its issues? Very sad, I think! I was on the list!
* Are you OK that this group prepared a list titled "The Enemy List" of 60 property owners? What? named us enemy's! Very sad! This is who we are as fellow neighbors?
* Are you aware that their own "hired" assistant signed an affidavit to the fact that she had to be a part of the above 'illicit" activities and feels horrible about it now? Are you OK with this? Is this who VE is as a community?
* Do you think it is OK for this past appointed SC to tell VE owners not to pay their dues which is clearly an effort to further damage & help destroy our community. What will happen when it runs out of money, goes dark and turns into an abandoned rundown community? Are you OK with that? Do you not care that it could further destroy your property values?
So Deb, can I talk about possible solutions ( the community is really good at talking about fighting and creating massive dissension with each other ) maybe you and I can start some dialog which is focused on trying to acquire the peace you mention above.(I think we both want it. Agreed? )
How about this.......
1) Anyone who believes for any reason they have a legal issue with the developer for any reason agrees to form an independent party of owners who feel the same way and (I.E.) file a collective class action suit or take other action as they desire against the developer. This group can then share the legal expenses and they share in the outcome either in victor or defeat. But respect and keep us out who do not want to be part of it. What do you say?
2) Lets encourage and have every owner agree to pay their dues and obligations proportionately as required and all of those funds budgeted to be used 100% for our community where 100% of us benefit; such as roads, security, maintenance, upkeep, maybe a new entrance etc. Whadda ya say? Lets approve a budget.
3) Lets create a true HOA website independent of a private owner and agree it is for solutions, activities and other subject matter that is constructive, free from attack demonizing our neighbors.
4) Election? I am certain the recent election held in January was the most legal ever held in VE for a number of reasons and the BOD is registered with the Panamanian government to confirm so. Why would any owner oppose it and if so, what is the desire and the objective of those against with an alternative plan where the community would benefit?
5) No SC member or its adviser(s) can overtly or clandestinely attempt to hurt or injure any other owner for any reason simply because they disagree with them on community issues.
6) Maybe we look at hiring a community manager & adminstrator to oversee running our community, done properly it is a part time job and not to hard to manage.
7) We focus on coming together as neighbors instead of being divided. Get to know others where we do not and maybe form a different opinion of each other without the preconceived dislikes,
Please, lets give this new SC a chance, I assure you they will sign a pledge to never attack, hurt, defame or injure another owner in VE,( unless they are biting back).
They simply want to help restore our community from the pain it has suffered. They are doing their best for free and quite frankly we do not have many left who wish to serve. So lets try and be less critical and more supportive.
Please encourage others to agree to this little outline of solution, we all win, no one suffers and we can move forward for all. Whadda ya say?
I personally think no owner has any right to complain unless they want to be part of the solutions. We have plenty whining about the problems or checked out completely as this place is falling apart. That is sad!
We have all suffered enough. Lets all empty the bullet chambers and focus on a better tomorrow!
Life is Short, lets make it better!
Will you help?
Anyone is free to send this to other owners who want to help solve our problems.
Mark
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